Date: 2004-07-29 02:41 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cnoocy
yay!
"No-Fight-Give" and "Have"?

Date: 2004-07-29 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rikchik.livejournal.com
"Gift of Peace" and "To Tie, To Bind".

Date: 2004-07-29 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tahnan.livejournal.com
Translation?

Date: 2004-07-29 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rikchik.livejournal.com
Aww, at least try to work it out. I made all those nice captions just for you!

Date: 2004-07-29 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tahnan.livejournal.com
What makes you think I didn't try? But the names are so much gibberish (even with "gift of peace" and "to tie, to bind" given), and I have no clue how to work out the agent/patient/instrument/etc. relation in what seems to be "give birth".

Show your work!

Date: 2004-07-29 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rikchik.livejournal.com
You didn't give me evidence that you had tried. Now I know that you figured out "give birth" at least, and that there were people with names involved.

Using the human named "Gift of peace" (Jeffery), the human named "To tie" (Rebecca) gives birth to "Flower in the water" (Lily). To that human I say "Happiness" (that is, hello). The strange relations in Child-V are of course due to rikchik reproductive practices - Jeff is the only Contributor, and Rebecca is the Parent. I'll go update the lexicon.

Re: Show your work!

Date: 2004-07-29 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tahnan.livejournal.com
Among other things, my version of Opera tends to crash when viewing a PNG by itself (and, when it did view it, it did so at a small resolution that made the captions impossible to read). I was able to open it with Quicktime, but when I did, I couldn't scroll, so I could only see a portion of it--the portion without "childbirth", as it happens, and with a lot of names that were, as I said, essentially gibberish.

Once I could read the whole thing (on a Mac)...I still couldn't make sense of the names, and I couldn't really make sense of Rikchik reproductive practices. All I could tell is that someone gave birth. And if it was indeed "Jeff" and "Rebecca" (as opposed to, I don't know, high school friends of yours named "Nathan"--which I know means "gift"--and "Cordelia"), it was the sort of thing I wanted to know without having to guess.

Re: Show your work!

Date: 2004-07-29 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rikchik.livejournal.com
Fair enough. Sorry that Opera is so evil to you... anything I can do to help? (Link to an HTML page containing the diagram instead of straight to the image?) I understand not wanting to misread a possibly important message (for instance, "miss Sheldon..."). Hopefully my next post will be less fraught with danger.

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